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Hillary Clinton announces support for gay marriage

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has just announced her support for gay marriage in an online video released today.

I had just assumed she already had stated support, but Wikipedia says she played a similar game to Obama.  So, good for her finally stating it straight-up, I guess.

But that said, this video is long, but it’s good.  It’s an extensive, pretty comprehensive statement in support of gay rights, marriage equality, and beyond, put well in context of the United States and the world.  She doesn’t exactly make you swoon like Obama has a tendency to do, but she’s very thoughtful and deliberate, and I like that.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: I’d vote for her in a heartbeat.

Oh, and about the bottom middle photo in that photoset…

Bob Foote, a master LAN administrator for King County, makes the final adjustments to one of 10 computers at the Recorder’s office…Foote has been gathering and preparing extra computer equipment since even before the election, anticipating the passage of Referendum 74 and the rush to get marriage licenses.

Gay marriage tech support!  The best kind of tech support.

My favorite five photos from the Seattle Times photo gallery of the first day of marriage licenses in Washington state, plus a bonus photo from Meryl Schenker.  So much happiness in all of these.

Good job, Washington.  You make me proud.

It was pretty much like every other wedding,” he said.

And the bill is signed!  Woot!  Congrats, Washington State!

Now we just have to wait out the inevitable referendum process, which I’m pretty optimistic will just draw things out instead of changing them.  But still!

Awesome.  I feel like the the tizzy by One MillionForty Thousand Moms have resulted in a net boost to Macy’s sales, if anything - this has gotten way more press from people pleased as punch by it than by anyone upset with it.  Hooray for backfires!

I made the mistake of watching the house floor discussion on the gay marriage bill.  Rep. Hargrove, you’re an ass.  Using a Jack in the Box commercial to prove that gay marriage is bad?  Really?  Also, you are not the parent of your entire state, to tell them whether or not you approve of their choices.  That’s a ridiculous reason to impose your And you don’t seem to understand that the undercurrent of your entire argument - that gay parents are inferior to straight parents - is nothing but fearmongering and bigotry.  You do realize, sir, that studies have shown that that hypothetical parent with two mothers is actually happier and better off than the one with straight parents, right?  Of course not.

And good for your family for not having a divorce.  I feel sorry for your relatives that died of AIDS, because they probably died feeling rejected and unaccepted by their family as well.

And all of you people throwing God into your speeches like I throw salt on my fries: you do realize that you can’t just cite God as reason to make laws, because we don’t live in a theocracy, right?  And you realize that “traditional marriage” that you just harped on a million times is actually rife with polygamy, incest, forced marriage to rapists, and all kinds of things you would abhor?  And that “traditional marriage”, until less than half a decade ago, didn’t include interracial marriage?

I just can’t.  Thank God this is Washington, and we have enough people who have their heads on straight in our house, and this will pass and get signed.  And, if I can be a little optimistic given that R71 passed pretty handily a few years ago, it will pass the people’s vote as well.  And Washington will stand firmly on the side of equality, and gays will get married, and all these “personal moral objections” and “religious convictions” (thank you for calling them out, Rep. Marko Lilas) will fall apart as they realize that the gays are just like them, and children of gay families are just like them, and there is no threat except to their own misconceived theology.

Rep. Lilas, you make everything better.  Thank you for being wonderful.  Your speech was wonderful and sensible and covered all the bases and just yes.

If you want to join, you can do so here.  But I’ll warn you - Rep. Overstreet is up, and he’s off on a theological tangent where he has already name-dropped Jesus twice and “truth” an uncountable number of times, and is trying to make a logical argument and failing miserably.  He started by insinuating that we didn’t define marriage in the first place.  Heh.  Silly person.  I’m out, I can’t handle any more of this.

Quotes from the Washington House discussing gay marriage

The bill made it out of committee today, and there are some priceless quotes.  In particular, Rep. Matt Shea was on a roll.  There is supposed to be a video, but it’s not up yet, so I just have to rely on the article.

I sit here as a Christian…This country was based on religious liberty not sexual liberty.

I think this guy needs to look up “religious liberty”

This will be the first time in the history of our country where we are giving people that horrible horrible choice [of choosing between their consciences and their business interests].

The first time?  Really?  The first time people have had to give up their biases and misplaced bigotry in order to make a buck?  I mean, come on, Ron Paul said just this year that the Civil Rights Act was bad for businesses.  You can come up with better “horrible horrible” things.

[Tried to add a clause] so we don’t treat Christians and others as second class citizens.

Right, because it’s okay for the gays to be denied recognition of lifelong commitment, but it’s not okay for Christians to be denied the right to discriminate against people based on in-born traits.  And we definitely need a clause granting blanket immunity “from any civil claim or cause of action” remotely relating to gay marriage.  Fortunately the amendment didn’t make it through.  

If it had, I’d have to demand my own immunity clause for fundamentalist Christian marriages - because lord knows (if ze exists, ze most certainly does) that they cause far more damage to this country than the gays ever have.

He also wanted to put a one-month residency requirement “to make sure our marriage laws are not abused.”  Because couples flying to our state to buy hotel rooms and wedding locations and food and wedding planners and generally spend lots of money is just the worst thing that could happen right now.

But I’ll end this post with a happy, quote, from Rep. Eddy: “We ought to acknowledge that we also heard of communities of faith that support this bill.”

Thank God (and G-d, and Allah, and whoever else is applicable) for that.

Churches (surprise!) unite in advocating for overt discrimination

And, of course, wrote a manifesto about it.  Now, this isn’t unexpected - Christians discriminating isn’t exactly anything new here in the good ol’ USA - but this paragraph particularly made me break out my “you deserve it” evil laugh:

For example, in New Jersey, the state cancelled  the tax-exempt status of a Methodist-run boardwalk pavilion used for religious services because the religious organization would not host a  same-sex “wedding” there. San Francisco dropped its $3.5 million in social service contracts with the Salvation Army because it refused to recognize same-sex “domestic partnerships” in its employee benefits policies. Similarly, Portland, Maine, required Catholic Charities to extend spousal employee benefits to same-sex “domestic partners” as a condition of receiving city housing and community development funds.

Man, you’re really pulling at the hearstrings.  Let me recap:

  • The government was giving you money to run a scenic wedding-hosting site.  You told gay people they couldn’t use it.  The government stopped giving you money.
  • The government gave you $3.5 million dollars in contracts of some sort.  You told gay people they couldn’t get their spousal benefits.  The government stopped giving you money.
  • The government gave you money for doing good things.  You said you didn’t want to give gay people their spousal benefits.  They said they would stop giving you money.  It’s not clear, but it sounds like you may have (heaven forbid) bitten your lips, taken the money, and stopped discriminating.

Sorry, but I just can’t really muster any sympathy for organizations that discriminate, get government money, and then whine when it gets taken away for discriminating.

In short, the refusal of these religious organizations to treat a same-sex sexual relationship as if it were a marriage marked them and their members as bigots, subjecting them to the full arsenal of government punishments and pressures reserved for racists. 
This sentence is also a nice little follow-up.  Getting all riled up at the implied comparison to racists?  How dare the government decide that discriminating based on one in-born, un-chosen physical trait is just as bad as discriminating on another in-born, un-chosen physical trait.  The nerve.
One bright spot: in the not-insignificant list of cosigners, I didn’t find a single Presbyterian - which is notable on a list that includes national-level leadership of Vineyard, Assemblies of God, Foursquare, Pentecostals (IPCC), Anglicans, General Baptists, Salvation Army, Evangelical Friends, Nazarenes, Evangelical Free, Lutherans (Missouri Synod), and Open Bible as well as several bishop-level officials from the Free Methodists, Lutherans (NALC), Catholics, and LDS.  I went to a Presbyterian church up in Seattle, and really appreciated the discussions I had with my pastor about such things, and there is a significant portion of the church advocating for change at the national level.  There was some minor progress at the last General Assembly, and the next one is coming up in July.  Here’s hoping for more progress.  And there’s always the Episcopal church right next door to my apartment that gladly accepted my PGMC poster.  Love those Episcopals.

Renault’s new ad.  I only wish these kinds of ads could be run in the states.